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Posted by Brad Pineau on August 19th, 2003 at 7:22 pm AST [9083 views]
On July 4th, my software company, Solostar Software, released it's first commercial product, SoloKeep. After submitting the software to various shareware sites, I quickly noticed the site's traffic increasing... On the average day, I would get about 15-20 users downloading the trial version of SoloKeep.One day, I checked my logs, and I noticed that I had upwards of 100 downloads in one day. "This is great!", I thought, until I looked at the list of referers. All the hits came from this one site that had a key generator for Solokeep available for download, along with a link to my site.
As upset as I was about having my copy protection cracked, I was thrilled that I had so many people using my software. If even one percent of those people who used the key generator liked the software, and decided to buy it, that could turn out to be a lot of sales.
So my question is... is software piracy a good thing? Can it actually help generate exposure and sales?
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To me, there are really two issues here.
1) Demo cracking
2) Product cracking and distribution.
The reason I say this is that if your demo gets cracked. You might not get paid, ever. If your registered product gets cracked you at least got paid once :), which to me is a whole lot better. Also, really it makes it more difficult for cracks to crack the sw because they must first get ahold of a registered copy first.(and really that is what this game is all about is making it more difficult for cracks to crack your sw).
I put this on us the developers. When releasing and developing demo sw why not create two versions(weither it be through compiler defines for windows apps or a regexp script that pulls out certin text in scripts (php, js, etc). This is not to say that versions shouldn't be "fully-functional" but you can still implement this in a way which will not allow cracks/hackers to rip out any copy pertection because the copy pertection will be at compile/build/release time.
This can be done through number limits... Not including modules which do not (or shouldn't be) functional in the demo version. (ie save/export routines) for one.
There are faults to this approach(This is more of a first line of defence).
1) If a user decides to purchace you product they will have to download a new version. Minor problem with high speed connections.
2) After the fully functional version has been bought it is possible that you may be cracked at that point. And that is a whole other battle. To long to discuss here.
.. there are a few other drawbacks which work on a more product to product case.
I guess my point is why not protect yourself as much as you can .. so that you can get paid(if you didnt want to get paid then you would release your product opensource so that you didnt have to deal with the headaches).. true .. no??
1) Demo cracking
2) Product cracking and distribution.
The reason I say this is that if your demo gets cracked. You might not get paid, ever. If your registered product gets cracked you at least got paid once :), which to me is a whole lot better. Also, really it makes it more difficult for cracks to crack the sw because they must first get ahold of a registered copy first.(and really that is what this game is all about is making it more difficult for cracks to crack your sw).
I put this on us the developers. When releasing and developing demo sw why not create two versions(weither it be through compiler defines for windows apps or a regexp script that pulls out certin text in scripts (php, js, etc). This is not to say that versions shouldn't be "fully-functional" but you can still implement this in a way which will not allow cracks/hackers to rip out any copy pertection because the copy pertection will be at compile/build/release time.
This can be done through number limits... Not including modules which do not (or shouldn't be) functional in the demo version. (ie save/export routines) for one.
There are faults to this approach(This is more of a first line of defence).
1) If a user decides to purchace you product they will have to download a new version. Minor problem with high speed connections.
2) After the fully functional version has been bought it is possible that you may be cracked at that point. And that is a whole other battle. To long to discuss here.
.. there are a few other drawbacks which work on a more product to product case.
I guess my point is why not protect yourself as much as you can .. so that you can get paid(if you didnt want to get paid then you would release your product opensource so that you didnt have to deal with the headaches).. true .. no??
Well, I figure that the people downloading the key generator with the intention to crack the software are the people who would never have any intention of even buying the software. Whether the software is cracked or not, you will never see any money from them.
I also figure there are people who follow the "golden rule" of software piracy - If you like it, buy it. You see this written in all the .NFO files that come with cracked software (whether the crackers actually follow this rule, or simply put it there to make themselves look less like thieves, is another story). So therefore, some people who crack the software and end up using it for a while might actully pay for it, to support the software company. These people may have never gotten to the point of liking it without the crack. People may argue that demos are available for such a case, but you cannot use a demo for months at a time to decide whether its worth keeping or not.
I also figure there are people who follow the "golden rule" of software piracy - If you like it, buy it. You see this written in all the .NFO files that come with cracked software (whether the crackers actually follow this rule, or simply put it there to make themselves look less like thieves, is another story). So therefore, some people who crack the software and end up using it for a while might actully pay for it, to support the software company. These people may have never gotten to the point of liking it without the crack. People may argue that demos are available for such a case, but you cannot use a demo for months at a time to decide whether its worth keeping or not.
Posted by Wyrren Sarrasri on February 11th, 2004 at 9:15 pm AST
Software piracy does have it's advantages. You will get those who enjoy the program so much that they decide to buy it, when they wouldn't have even picked it up, had it been full price. They get a feel for the program, and once they've learnt how to use it they would rather stick with what they know then go out and buy a totally different program. I agree with you in that it is good exposure to generate sales.
Good software is rediculously overpriced these days, and for someone who just wants to mess around with the product at home or is a student who only needs the program for one assignment or so, these prices are too much.
When people are planning to, or are making money out of a specific program, then I believe it absolutely necessary to legally buy a copy of the program.
Good software is rediculously overpriced these days, and for someone who just wants to mess around with the product at home or is a student who only needs the program for one assignment or so, these prices are too much.
When people are planning to, or are making money out of a specific program, then I believe it absolutely necessary to legally buy a copy of the program.
Posted by Jeza on March 12th, 2004 at 12:07 am AST
Ya I stupid I agree
its all bollocks man.
its only been 100 or so years since copyright was even invented, and yes fine, back in those days you couldnt have a distribution network without producing physical copies and then it made sense to pay for the service, but now we have a distribution network that does not deprive the original owner of their copy and can provide unlimited copies at only one 'cost', which is bandwidth, i say it with '' because the fact is once you turn the machine on, having data travelling or not travelling is irrelavant, there is only the initial cost of buying it and your electricity bill (thats another story - how big business is trying to say bandwith should be paid for).
with this thought in mind i basically view the old system of music distribution as a failed experiment. if for example, someone had been collecting for a long time, and had 50gb or even a 100gb (and theres plenty of home users with collections bigger than that out there), the so-called price of this data has already shot through the roof so high that effectivly the person would have had to pour every spare penny they ever made into it, and still wouldnt have a collection that big. therefore i dont see the value of paying 20 quid for a cd. so the solution they riaa is providing is basically listen to less variety in your music.
its not like theres no altenatives either, theres tv-like ways of funding things, and subscriptions to collections instead of high prices for small amounts, and in my opinion the best thing is the money coming from doing concerts and stuff, because at the end of the day all the riaa is concerned with is the big labels making big money, and they can still do that, 40 quid a pop times a whole stadium, and they can repeat this many times, the album is once or so a year. (incidentally there are way better ways of working this out i just cant remember the details -- go do some research yourself ;)
another thing now ive got on to the riaa is that the organisation which it grew out of, when gramophones were invented, paraded around saying that music in the home will destroy the musicians industry taking money away from performers, and then when casette tapes came out they started up again, saying home taping is killing music with a big skull and crossroads, and now they have hired a whole bunch of ex army dudes to run their task force which runs round dressed up like the swat, with no official power, threating people selling illegal media on the streets, and even going round to people's houses.
personally, at the end of day, i think it takes the fucking piss because people listen to music because it affects them and its a large part of their lives, and the only interest the riaa has shown has been related to the fact they dont get no dollar.
its like are you going to start charging for air? no its a ridiculous idea, air is everywhere and it keeps people happy and alive and things like that, and then music has parallels that are like it. make ur own metaphor up im sure you get where im coming from by now ;)
oh and to actually reply to your specific angle piracy in this post, yes i think its an amazing thing, look at microsoft, they stayed complacent about windows being fully pirated by everyone, smugly knowing that at the end of the day, regardless of whats going on with this version of the software, they still have the market locked down and can sort the messy bits out later.
its only been 100 or so years since copyright was even invented, and yes fine, back in those days you couldnt have a distribution network without producing physical copies and then it made sense to pay for the service, but now we have a distribution network that does not deprive the original owner of their copy and can provide unlimited copies at only one 'cost', which is bandwidth, i say it with '' because the fact is once you turn the machine on, having data travelling or not travelling is irrelavant, there is only the initial cost of buying it and your electricity bill (thats another story - how big business is trying to say bandwith should be paid for).
with this thought in mind i basically view the old system of music distribution as a failed experiment. if for example, someone had been collecting for a long time, and had 50gb or even a 100gb (and theres plenty of home users with collections bigger than that out there), the so-called price of this data has already shot through the roof so high that effectivly the person would have had to pour every spare penny they ever made into it, and still wouldnt have a collection that big. therefore i dont see the value of paying 20 quid for a cd. so the solution they riaa is providing is basically listen to less variety in your music.
its not like theres no altenatives either, theres tv-like ways of funding things, and subscriptions to collections instead of high prices for small amounts, and in my opinion the best thing is the money coming from doing concerts and stuff, because at the end of the day all the riaa is concerned with is the big labels making big money, and they can still do that, 40 quid a pop times a whole stadium, and they can repeat this many times, the album is once or so a year. (incidentally there are way better ways of working this out i just cant remember the details -- go do some research yourself ;)
another thing now ive got on to the riaa is that the organisation which it grew out of, when gramophones were invented, paraded around saying that music in the home will destroy the musicians industry taking money away from performers, and then when casette tapes came out they started up again, saying home taping is killing music with a big skull and crossroads, and now they have hired a whole bunch of ex army dudes to run their task force which runs round dressed up like the swat, with no official power, threating people selling illegal media on the streets, and even going round to people's houses.
personally, at the end of day, i think it takes the fucking piss because people listen to music because it affects them and its a large part of their lives, and the only interest the riaa has shown has been related to the fact they dont get no dollar.
its like are you going to start charging for air? no its a ridiculous idea, air is everywhere and it keeps people happy and alive and things like that, and then music has parallels that are like it. make ur own metaphor up im sure you get where im coming from by now ;)
oh and to actually reply to your specific angle piracy in this post, yes i think its an amazing thing, look at microsoft, they stayed complacent about windows being fully pirated by everyone, smugly knowing that at the end of the day, regardless of whats going on with this version of the software, they still have the market locked down and can sort the messy bits out later.
Posted by Dale_22x on February 27th, 2005 at 1:36 am AST
am currently writing up a speech about piracy,...saying it's good and stuff...
well acording to how i think, you are not losing much because of it, if you arn't gaining. The from the people who downloaded it there are 3 kinds, the people who need it for a single task and would probably never use it ever again. and the people who follow the golden rule, and then the people who may use it regularily but still never pay for it.
the first and third kinds would never bother to get your software if they couldn't get it for free.
the 2nd kind,..well if they like it they buy it. They wouldn't buy it with out seeing it's full capability. I have never heard of your software, company, and i really don't know what this is about (i came here completely by accident and found a topic am interested in) and i would not simply buy it with out seeing wat it can do.
so there, if your software sucks, then none of those people will buy it cuz they know how much it sucks,...it it's really awesome, you will,..or should get atleast a few people
well acording to how i think, you are not losing much because of it, if you arn't gaining. The from the people who downloaded it there are 3 kinds, the people who need it for a single task and would probably never use it ever again. and the people who follow the golden rule, and then the people who may use it regularily but still never pay for it.
the first and third kinds would never bother to get your software if they couldn't get it for free.
the 2nd kind,..well if they like it they buy it. They wouldn't buy it with out seeing it's full capability. I have never heard of your software, company, and i really don't know what this is about (i came here completely by accident and found a topic am interested in) and i would not simply buy it with out seeing wat it can do.
so there, if your software sucks, then none of those people will buy it cuz they know how much it sucks,...it it's really awesome, you will,..or should get atleast a few people
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